Freeman Dyson on the physical reality of Richard Feynman’s “path integrals” quantum field theory

Dr. Elliot McGucken (who thinks that the well-accepted expansion of the observed flat universe with time at the speed of light is a new or innovative “moving dimensions” theory and now apparently assumes the name “Bruno Galileo” in a comment at Dr Woit’s blog on 6 August 2010), has helpfully quoted a conversation between Dyson and Feynman from Dyson’s 1979 book Disturbing the Universe:


“Dick [Feynman] fought back against my skepticism, arguing that Einstein had failed because he stopped thinking in concrete physical images and became a manipulator of equations. I had to admit that was true. The great discoveries of Einstein’s earlier years were all based on direct physical intuition. Einstein’s later unified theories failed because they were only sets of equations without physical meaning. Dick’s sum-over-histories theory was in the spirit of the young Einstein, not of the old Einstein. It was solidly rooted in physical reality.”

This is important, because it clarifies Feynman’s position on the role of mathematics in physics, as indicated by some of the quotations from Feynman’s books and lectures given in the previous posts. Dyson is an authority on this subject because he worked with Feynman and Schwinger on the development of quantum electrdynamics, and it was he who first showed that Feynman’s path integrals provided a formal way to generalize, in his paper (in his famous paper The Radiation Theories of Tomonaga, Schwinger and Feynman) the Schwinger-Tomonaga calculations to any problem in quantum field theory. In Dyson’s Disturbing the Universe we find the quotation above on page 62 of the 1981 Pan edition, London. The context of the quotation is the 2,000 mile long, four-day car journey of Dyson and Feynman from Ithaca to Albuquerque in 1948, which ended up with them being fined in Albuquerque for speeding at 70 in a 20 miles per hour limit (Feynman’s chatty personality and love of Albuquerque charmed the J.P. into reducing the fine from $50 to $14.50).

Mathematics is central to making predictions and therefore central to physics; but when you look at how mathematics works you can see that it isn’t behind the phenomena of nature. First off, there are no complete analytical solutions to atoms heavier than hydrogen in quantum mechanics: you need to use approximations to deal with atoms that have more than one electron. How can nature be intrinsically mathematical in that case? Second, Professor Eugene P. Wigner, who worked on group theory and symmetries in physics, wrote a famous article on the “Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics in the Physical Sciences”, Communications in Pure and Applied Mathematics, vol. 13, No. I (February 1960). Wigner of course is the physicist who designed the plutonium production reactors for the Manhattan Project in 1943, ignoring the possibility that some fission products could be strong neutron absorbers when produced in large amounts (at the time he was designing the reactor, the only experience was Fermi’s first experimental reactor, just 200 watts). Wigner admits in his autobiography that when the engineers increased his planned size of the reactor core by an arbitrary safety factor to allow for extra fuel to be inserted in the case of unforseen calculating errors, he was enraged at what he considered to be their ignorance of the precision of the beautiful equations and precision measurements which he used to make his exact calculations. Wigner was convinced that mathematics controlled physics, despite the fact you can’t actually use mathematics to calculate exact analytical wavefunctions to any many electron atoms. A few hours after Wigner’s reactors were turned on, they shut down because some fission products were strong neutron absorbers. It was only because the engineers had been skeptical of Wigner’s misleading calculations and had gone over Wigner’s head and made the reactor cores bigger than he wanted, that they were able to compensate for the fission product neutron absorbers by adding extra fuel to the core to keep it critical despite the effects of the neutron poisons. Still, despite this experience of the failure of physical calculations to completely model the real world, Wigner did not catch on that the universe is physical not governed by the approximate equations people use to describe it. In that article, Wigner dogmatically ignores all the evidence staring him in the face and assumes that mathematics is “unreasonably effective” in physics, when in fact it is unreasonably ineffective as seen from the long struggles to formulate the laws of nature mathematically and the failures to accomplish that objective:

“It always bothers me that, according to the laws as we understand them today, it takes a computing machine an infinite number of logical operations to figure out what goes on in no matter how tiny a region of space, and no matter how tiny a region of time. [There are an infinite series of terms in the perturbative expansion to a path integral, which can't all be evaluated; each term corresponds to one Feynman diagram. For low-energy physics, all of the important phenomena correspond to merely the first Feynman diagram, a simple tree branch shape with no spacetime loops which become important at high energy, above the IR or low-energy cutoff which corresponds to Schwinger's threshold field strength for pair production and annihilation operators to begin to have an effect. Clearly in the real world, an infinite number of Feynman diagrams are not all contributing in the smallest space; this fact is demonstrated by the need for a high-energy UV cutoff to suppress pair production with infinite momenta at the smallest distances, renormalizing the charge by limiting the quantum field effect from the pairs of virtual fermionic charges. However, the UV cutoff used in renormalization, while eliminating the infinite momenta from extremely high energy field phenomena, does not prevent the perturbative expansion having an infinite series of terms. Renormalization still leaves you with an infinite series of different loop-filled Feynman diagram terms in the expansion for energies below the UV cutoff energy.] How can all that be going on in that tiny space? Why should it take an infinite amount of logic to figure out what one tiny piece of spacetime is going to do? So I have often made the hypothesis that ultimately physics will not require a mathematical statement, that in the end the machinery will be revealed, and the laws will turn out to be simple, like the chequer board with all its apparent complexities.”

- Feynman, November 1964 Cornell lectures on the Character of Physical Law, recorded by the BBC.

Richard P. Feynman, November 1964 Messenger Lectures, The Character of Physical Law (also published in book form):

‘What does the planet do? Does it look at the sun, see how far away it is, and decide to calculate on its internal adding machine the inverse of the square of the distance, which tells it how much to move? This is certainly no explanation of the machinery of gravitation!

‘Suppose that in the world everywhere there are a lot of particles, flying through us at very high speed. They come equally in all directions – just shooting by – and once in a while they hit us in a bombardment. We, and the sun, are practically transparent for them, practically but not completely, and some of them hit. Look, then, at what would happen.

‘If the sun were not there, particles would be bombarding the Earth from all sides, giving little impulses by the rattle, bang, bang of the few that hit. This will not shake the Earth in any particular direction [it will just make fundamental particles move chaotically, like Brownian motion, rather than along smooth classical geodesics], because there are as many coming from one side as from the other, from top as from bottom.

‘However, when the sun is there the particles which are coming from that direction are partly absorbed [or reflected, as in the case of Yang-Mills gravitons, an exchange radiation!] by the sun, because some of them hit the sun and do not go through. Therefore, the number coming from the sun’s direction towards the Earth is less than the number coming from the other sides, because they meet an obstacle, the sun. It is easy to see that the farther the sun is away, of all the possible directions in which particles can come, a smaller proportion of the particles are being taken out.

‘The sun will appear smaller – in fact inversely as the square of the distance. Therefore there will be an impulse on the Earth towards the sun that varies inversely as the square of the distance. And this will be a result of large numbers of very simple operations, just hits, one after the other, from all directions. Therefore the strangeness of the mathematical relation will be very much reduced, because the fundamental operation is much simpler than calculating the inverse square of the distance. This design, with the particles bouncing, does the calculation.

‘The only trouble with this scheme is that … If the Earth is moving, more particles will hit it from in front than from behind. (If you are running in the rain, more rain hits you in the front of the face than in the back of the head, because you are running into the rain.) So, if the Earth is moving it is running into the particles coming towards it and away from the ones that are chasing it from behind. So more particles will hit it from the front than from the back, and there will be a force opposing any motion. This force would slow the Earth up in its orbit… So that is the end of that theory. [If the particles are real on-shell radiation, but not if they are quantum field quanta by analogy to the Casimir force radiation of the vacuum, which are off-shell radiation that doesn’t cause drag, heating, etc.]

‘‘Well,’ you say, ‘it was a good one … Maybe I could invent a better one.’ Maybe you can, because nobody knows the ultimate. …”

This is probably the best place to give some additional quotations from Dyson’s book Disturbing the Universe (Pan, London, 1981), showing how Richard (“Dick”) Feynman developed his sum-over-histories or path integrals technique and the difficulties in explaining such a relatively “non-standard” idea which requires only very simple mathematical integration techniques (as Feynman shows in his 1985 book QED in the case of low energy phenomena such as the refraction of light by glass or water or its reflection by a mirror, the path integral is just summing a single Feynman diagram over all of its possible actions so you can avoid any mathematical formulae and “sum over paths” by drawing the different paths on a diagram, plotting their complex phase angles as “arrows” of equal length but varying directioin, then summing all of the arrows nose-to-tail graphically to find the net amplitude or “path integral”!), aided by pictorial “Feynman diagrams”, one for each term in the perturbative expansion with terms having increasing powers of the coupling constant from Feynman’s rules.

Each additional term in the perturbative expansion represents a more complicated physical process, with additional interaction vertices, and according to Feynman’s rules you pick up one coupling constant for every vertex on the diagram. Thus, the simplest Feynman diagram is, say, an onshell photon being scattered an electric charge – by absorbing a gauge boson (offshell photon) from the field of an electron – and this diagram consists of just three lines meeting at one vertex (the gauge boson coming into the photon’s trajectory, being absorbed by it, and thus causing a deflection in the trajectory of the photon, which proceeds at an angle to its original path), so by Feynman’s rules it involves only the first power of the coupling constant, but more complicated diagrams have more than one vertex so they involve higher powers of the coupling constant. Feynman’s pictorial diagrams show the simple physical mechanism of nature operating behind the apparently complicated mathematical terms in the perturbative expansion, which are extremely difficult if not impossible to evaluate without Feynman’s pictures: nature isn’t mysterious, non-understandable mathematics, it requires “child’s play” mathematics, namely simple graphical diagrams of particles interacting. (Dyson tentatively explains a possible reason for this profound simplicity of the universe in the delightful but crazy finish to his book Disturbing the Universe, where he finds out a very simple answer to everything that seems mysterious and counter-intuitive.)

Page 54:

“As soon as I arrived at Cornell, I became aware of Dick as the liveliest personality in our department … I had a room in a student dormitory and sometimes around two o’clock in the morning I would wake up to the sound of a strange rhythm pulsating over the silent campus. That was Dick playing his bongo drums.

“Dick was also a profoundly original scientist. He refused to take anybody’s word for anything. This meant that he was forced to rediscover or reinvent for himself almost the whole of physics. It took him five years of concentrated work to reinvent quantum mechanics. He said that he couldn’t understand the official version of quantum mechanics that was taught in textbooks, and so he had to begin afresh from the beginning. That was a heroic enterprise. He worked harder during those years than anybody else I ever knew. At the end he had a version of quantum mechanics that he could understand. … The calculation that I did for Hans [Bethe], using the orthodox theory, took me several months of work and several hundred sheets of paper. Dick could get the same answer, calculating on a blackboard, in half an hour.

“So this was the situation which I found at Cornell. Hans was using the old cookbook quantum mechanics that Dick couldn’t understand. Dick was using his own private quantum mechanics that nobody else could understand. They were getting the same answers whenever they calculated the same problems. And Dick could calculate a whole lot of things that Hans couldn’t. It was obvious to me that Dick’s theory must be fundamentally right. I decided that my main job, after I finished the calculation for Hans, must be to understand Dick and explain his ideas in a language that the rest of the world could understand.”

On page 55, Dyson explains that “Dick” Feynman tried to explain his sum-over-histories theory to Oppenheimer and Bethe at the Pocono conference in the spring of 1948, and failed:

“Nobody understood a word that Dick said. At the end Oppy [Oppenheimer] made some scathing comments and that was that. Dick came home from the meeting very depressed. …

“The reason Dick’s physics was so hard for ordinary people to grasp was that he did not use equations. [E.g., in his 1985 book QED Feynman uses purely graphical procedures - without equations - to sum over many path histories with arrows of constant length and varying direction to physically represent the integration of phase amplitudes eiS/h-bar for all paths with the relevant laws of nature expressed as a lagrangian in the action S; even where some integration of equations was really needed, Feynman was able to simplify the process of doing the actual integration of the square of the modulus of eiS/h-bar using calculus by physically working out that such a path integral is equal to a "perturbative expansion" which is series of terms which can each be represented physically by a different interaction with a unique Feynman diagram; Feynman gave very simple rules for working out the contribution of each Feynman diagram, e.g. you multiply by one factor of the coupling constant for each vertex in the Feynman diagram, and by one propagator for each internal line in the Feynman diagram, etc.]

“The usual way theoretical physics was done since the time of Newton was to begin by writing down some equations and then to work hard calculating solutions of the equations. This was the way Hans and Oppy and Julian Schwinger did physics. Dick just … had a physical picture of the way things happen, and the picture gave him the solutions directly with a minimum of calculation. It was no wonder that people who had spent their lives solving equations were baffled by him. Their minds were analytical; his was pictorial. My own training, since the far-off days when I struggled with Piaggio’s differential equations, had been analytical. But as I listened to Dick and stared at the strange diagrams that he drew on the blackboard, I gradually absorbed some of his pictorial imagination and began to feel at home in his version of the universe. …”

Page 56:

“The behavior of the electron is just the result of adding together all the histories according to some simple rules that Dick worked out. And the same trick works with minor changes not only for electrons but for everything else …

“This sum-over-histories way of looking at things is not really so mysterious, once you get used to it. Like other profoundly original ideas, it has become slowly absorbed into the fabric of physics, so that now after thirty years it is difficult to remember why we found it at the beginning so hard to grasp. I had the enormous luck to be there at Cornell in 1948 when the idea was newborn, and to be for a short time Dick’s sounding board. I witnessed the concluding stages of the five-year-long intellectual struggle by which Dick fought his way through to his unifying vision. …

Page 57:

“In that spring of 1948 there was another memorable event. Hans received a small package from Japan containing the first two issues of a new physics journal, Progress of Theoretical Physics, published in Kyoto. The two issues were printed in English on brownish paper of poor quality. They contained a total of six short articles. The first article in issue No. 2 was called ‘On a Relativistically Invariant Formulation of the Quantum Theory of Wave Fields,’ by S. Tomonaga of Tokyo University. Underneath it was a footnote saying, ‘Translated from the paper … (1943) appeared originally in Japanese.’ Hans gave me the article to read. It contained, set out simply and lucidly without any mathematical elaboration, the central idea of Julian Schwinger’s theory. The implications of this were astonishing.”

Page 62:

“Dick distrusted my mathematics and I distrusted his intuition. … You could not imagine the sum-over-histories picture being true for a part of nature and untrue for another part. You could not imagine it being true for electrons and untrue for gravity. It was a unifying principle that would either explain everything or explain nothing. And this made me profoundly skeptical. I knew how many great scientists had chased this will-o’-the-wisp of a unified theory. The ground of science was littered with the corpses of dead unified theories. Even Einstein had spent twenty years searching for a unified theory and had found nothing that satisfied him. I admired Dick tremendously, but I did not believe he could beat Einstein at his own game.

“Dick fought back against my skepticism, arguing that Einstein had failed because he stopped thinking in concrete physical images and became a manipulator of equations. I had to admit that was true. The great discoveries of Einstein’s earlier years were all based on direct physical intuition. Einstein’s later unified theories failed because they were only sets of equations without physical meaning. Dick’s sum-over-histories theory was in the spirit of the young Einstein, not of the old Einstein. It was solidly rooted in physical reality.

“But I still argued against Dick, telling him that his theory was a magnificent dream rather than a scientific theory. Nobody but Dick could use his theory, because he was always invoking his intuition to make up the rules of the game as he went along. Until the rules were codified and made mathematically precise, I could not call it a theory.”

Page 67:

“Feynman and Schwinger were just looking at the same set of ideas from two different sides. Putting their methods together, you would have a theory of quantum electrodynamics that combined the mathematical precision of Schwinger with the practical flexibility of Feynman. Finally, there would be a straightforward theory of the middle ground. It was my tremendous luck that I was the only person who had had the chance to talk at length to both Schwinger and Feynman and really understand what both of them were doing. In the hour of illumination I gave thanks to my teacher Hans Bethe [at Cornell], who had made it possible. … The title of the [Dyson] paper would be ‘The Radiation Theories of Tomonaga, Schwinger and Feynman.’ This way I would make sure that Tomonaga got his fair share of the glory.”

Page 88:

“The first time I met Teller was in March 1949, when I talked to the physicists at the University of Chicago about the radiation theories of Schwinger and Feynman. I diplomatically gave high praise to Schwinger and then explained why Feynman’s methods were more useful and more illuminating. At the end of the lecture, the chairman called for questions from the audience. Teller asked the first question: ‘What would you think of a man who cried “There is no God but Allah, and Mohammed is his prophet”, and then at once drank down a great tankard of wine?’ Since I remained speechless, Teller answered the question himself: ‘I would consider the man a very sensible fellow’.”

This illustrates the diplomacy needed in presenting new ideas.

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2 thoughts on “Freeman Dyson on the physical reality of Richard Feynman’s “path integrals” quantum field theory

  1. hey there nige!

    you write, “Dr. Elliot McGucken (who thinks that the well-accepted expansion of the observed flat universe with time at the speed of light is a new or innovative “moving dimensions” theory and now apparently assumes the name “Bruno Galileo” in a comment at Dr Woit’s blog on 6 August 2010), has helpfully quoted a conversation between Dyson and Feynman from Dyson’s 1979 book Disturbing the Universe:”

    No–what I think is new and innovative is dx4/dt=ic. :)

    http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/873
    http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/511
    http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/238

    On the Emergence of QM, Relativity, Entropy, Time, iħ, and ic from the Foundational, Physical Reality of a Fourth Dimension x4 Expanding with a Discrete (Digital) Wavelength lp at c Relative to Three Continuous (Analog) Spatial Dimensions
    Dr. E. McGucken

    The photon is used to physically probe and trace the discrete, digital, dynamic nature of x4 as the quantum nature of physical measurement is examined, while the foundational papers of Planck, Bohr, Heisenberg, et al. are exalted, lead by Einstein’s statement that physics “starts from experience and ends in it.” In its simplest case, a photon oscillates while propagating at c as a probabilistic wave-front expanding through the three spatial dimensions in a spherically-symmetric manner, as demonstrated by the classic double-slit experiment, leading to the natural conclusion that x4, in which the photon remains stationary according to relativity, must thusly be oscillating and propagating at c as a spherically-symmetric expanding wavefront. Relativity informs us that all of a photon’s motion is through the three spatial dimensions, thusly dictating that the timeless, ageless photon remains stationary in the fourth dimension x4. As electromagnetic radiation (the photon) is quantized, while there is no evidence for quantum gravity, we may conclude that x4 is quantized and digital in nature, while the three spatial dimensions are continuous and analog in nature. qp-pq=iħ (Born & Heisenberg) and x4=ict or dx4/dt=ic (Einstein & Minkowski) are fundamental relationships of QM and relativity. Both equations have differentials on the left and an i on the right, as Bohr noted, suggesting that a foundational change is occurring in a “perpendicular” manner, implying a fourth moving dimension. qp-pq = iħ reflects the discrete increment and quantum action—ħ —that emerges from the dynamic, discretely parceled space-time geometry born by the discrete wavelength of x4’s expansion; while dx4/dt=ic, from which relativity and its postulates derive, sets the velocity of the expansion of x4 to c. A physical model encompassing both Einstein’s “elementary foundations” of relativity and Schrodinger’s “characteristic trait” of QM—entanglement—is presented.

    Author Bio

    In high school, theoretical physicist Dr. Elliot McGucken received the Bausch & Lomb Science Award, the William Tenney Scholar-Athlete Award, and the Judith Resnik Memorial Scholarship which helped him attend Princeton University. Dr. E’s Ph.D. research titled “Multiple unit artificial retina chipset to aid the visually impaired and enhanced holed-emitter CMOS phototransistors” received several Fight for Sight and NSF grants, as well as a Merrill Lynch Innovations award. The late J.A. Wheeler wrote, “More intellectual curiosity, versatility and yen for physics than Elliot McGucken’s I have never seen in any senior or graduate student.”

    Over the past few decades prominent physicists have noted that physics has diverged away from its heroic journey defined by boldly describing, fathoming, and characterizing foundational truths of physical reality via simple, elegant, logically-consistent postulates and equations humbling themselves before empirical reality. Herein the spirit of physics is again exalted by the heroic words of the Greats—by Galileo, Newton, Faraday, Maxwell, Planck, Einstein, Bohr, and Schrodinger—the Founding Fathers upon whose shoulders physics stands. And from that pinnacle, a novel physical theory is proposed, complete with a novel physical model celebrating a hitherto unsung universal invariant and an equation reflecting the foundational physical reality of a fourth dimension expanding relative to the three spatial dimensions at the rate of c, or dx4/dt=ic, providing both the “elementary foundations” for relativity and QM’s “characteristic trait”—entanglement, and its nonlocal, probabilistic nature. From MDT’s experimentally-verified equation relativity is derived while time is unfrozen and free will exalted, while a physical model accounting for quantum nonlocality is presented. Entropy, Huygens’ Principle; the wave/particle, energy/mass, space/time, and E/B dualities; and time and all its arrows and asymmetries emerge from a common, foundational physical model. MDT exalts Einstein’s “empirical facts,” “naturalness,” and “logical simplicity.” For the first time in the history of relativity, change is woven into the fabric of space-time, and the timeless, ageless, nonlocal photon of Galileo’s/Einstein’s “empirical world” is explained via a foundational physical model, alongside the fact that c is both constant and the maximum velocity in the universe. The empirical GPS clocks’ time dilation/twins paradox is resolved by proposing a frame of absolute rest—the three spatial dimensions, and a frame of absolute motion—the fourth expanding dimension upon which ageless photons of zero rest mass surf; which underlie and give rise to Einstein’s Principle of Relativity.

    Author Bio

    “Dr. E” received a B.A. in physics from Princeton University and a Ph.D. in physics from UNC Chapel Hill, where his research on an artificial retina, which is now helping the blind see, appeared in NSF’s Frontiers and Popular Science and was awarded a Merrill Lynch Innovations Grant. While at Princeton, McGucken worked on projects concerning quantum mechanics and general relativity with the late John A. Wheeler, and the projects combined to form an appendix treating time as an emergent phenomenon in his dissertation. McGucken is writing a book artsentrepreneurship.com curriculum he created: The Gold 45 Revolver: The Hero’s Journey.

    Over the past few decades prominent physicists have noted that physics has diverged away from its heroic journey defined by boldly describing, fathoming, and characterizing foundational truths of physical reality via simple, elegant, logically-consistent postulates and equations humbling themselves before empirical reality. Herein the spirit of physics is again exalted by the heroic words of the Greats—by Galileo, Newton, Faraday, Maxwell, Planck, Einstein, Bohr, and Schrodinger—the Founding Fathers upon whose shoulders physics stands. And from that pinnacle, a novel physical theory is proposed, complete with a novel physical model celebrating a hitherto unsung universal invariant and an equation reflecting the foundational physical reality of a fourth dimension expanding relative to the three spatial dimensions at the rate of c, or dx4/dt=ic, providing both the “elementary foundations” for relativity and QM’s “characteristic trait”—entanglement, and its nonlocal, probabilistic nature. From MDT’s experimentally-verified equation relativity is derived while time is unfrozen and free will exalted, while a physical model accounting for quantum nonlocality is presented. Entropy, Huygens’ Principle; the wave/particle, energy/mass, space/time, and E/B dualities; and time and all its arrows and asymmetries emerge from a common, foundational physical model. MDT exalts Einstein’s “empirical facts,” “naturalness,” and “logical simplicity.” For the first time in the history of relativity, change is woven into the fabric of space-time, and the timeless, ageless, nonlocal photon of Galileo’s/Einstein’s “empirical world” is explained via a foundational physical model, alongside the fact that c is both constant and the maximum velocity in the universe. The empirical GPS clocks’ time dilation/twins paradox is resolved by proposing a frame of absolute rest—the three spatial dimensions, and a frame of absolute motion—the fourth expanding dimension upon which ageless photons of zero rest mass surf; which underlie and give rise to Einstein’s Principle of Relativity.

    Author Bio

    “Dr. E” received a B.A. in physics from Princeton University and a Ph.D. in physics from UNC Chapel Hill, where his research on an artificial retina, which is now helping the blind see, appeared in NSF’s Frontiers and Popular Science and was awarded a Merrill Lynch Innovations Grant. While at Princeton, McGucken worked on projects concerning quantum mechanics and general relativity with the late John A. Wheeler, and the projects combined to form an appendix treating time as an emergent phenomenon in his dissertation. McGucken is writing a book artsentrepreneurship.com curriculum he created: The Gold 45 Revolver: The Hero’s Journey.

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